Episode Transcript
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hello hello there this is Thumbs United
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we're doing our kind of hodge podge
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is as a new thing i'm doing
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technically it's not new ah that's how
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i wish i did streams was before
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i would do the video game play
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capture it and then narrate over it
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so back to that now have just
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evan having difficulties have enough time to
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sit down and streams i've recorded at
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several sections of destiny two and in
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there can be the background for that
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but i didn't do any podcast out
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the as united streams in february i
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have don't like maybe five episodes so
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far maybe this is the first one
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but the thumbs united or was pretty
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easy to do until now i've just
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been so overloaded with ah projects i've
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been working on and is not so
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much the in working on so many
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projects as that i've been stuck with
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one project and everything kind of needs
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to happen after that and so that's
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kind of binley exile and do seen
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ah it's one project is with a
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i stuff so there's a whole bunch
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of testing i have to do i
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have a talk about that they are
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but the good news is that i
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have gone back to this way of
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doing wow podcast i streams so hopefully
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it will be more reliable from now
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on but near so that's as that
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now the state of destiny two i
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play destiny one way i think i
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didn't play destiny wine and till destiny
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two came out and i had no
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issue with destiny when i knew exactly
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what to do the gameplay the many
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systems everything was no i never struggled
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with it as i have to do
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this to level up apply narrative watched
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it toils or anything and you know
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it was nonstop fun i even with
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on a got to rise of either
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i rise of iron was a little
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bit more difficult but how it was
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still fight and so i got a
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lotta in a comments now comments but
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people in chat on torch say no
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you should good does need to disney
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to is free sighs i i you
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know it ago i went to disney
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to and yes it was free but
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i bought our there was some deal
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on so as though which which queen
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and and some other stuff and so
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i got the pack and oh my
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goodness and i i struggled i did
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life team and it's on my youtube
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channel where i struggled us finding out
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where to go in everything in so
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i can take a break like i
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spent maybe five or six hours and
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destiny to and was getting to the
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point where it was getting have fun
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and everything by then it was just
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there was this quest issue where they
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i didn't really know what happened between
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destiny destiny one destiny to and so
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then i was kind of looking over
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the internet and there are they removed
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so probably i guess i was you
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know the first levels does need to
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talked about what happened between the two
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and but bungie removed there and they
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said are so all it was only
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twenty seventeen which yeah i mean that
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is older because we're and twenty twenty
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three now but still so i had
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no idea what happened with that i
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didn't go watch other people's let's plays
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or synopsis of what happened there and
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then ah i don't know if it
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was just the season i was in
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in destiny to at that time for
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doing that which green was you know
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everything worked out well but ah there's
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new season and i have no idea
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what to do like it keeps taking
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me and i like as you can
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see you're doing like for now and
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it's just i don't know i'm just
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so confused i keep trying to go
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back to the which queen but then
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there's a the other issue is that
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i don't need to go up with
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people so often because i kind of
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think it's rude if i am in
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a recording it or live streaming at
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night on al people who don't wanna
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be on stream on stream and are
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none of my friends really play destiny
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to so it means i do the
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strikes by myself and the strikes are
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tuned like if it's a three percent
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strike it's meant to be is difficult
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and it's meant to be difficult for
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three people so it's almost impossible to
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do with just one player and so
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i've completed a couple of strikes that
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way and i'm just by myself but
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it it is obnoxious and i am
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i'm pretty chill guy by it and
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my palms are sweaty air and like
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stress sweating a feeling about our attack
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as that i rage quit as just
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like what happens is you give the
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best performance and gameplay as you know
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we know as like unbelievable performance you're
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taking a down and are you going
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left you going right and then i
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you like so close to beating the
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final boss and i could you not
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like there are several times was like
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it tell you the final bosses you
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know what their health is and you're
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like to slivers of a pixel from
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any that bus and then something so
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stupid kills you and of course respond
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is disabled and so you have to
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go back again to twiddling down that
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final boss by yourself says no when
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they arrive you and so there been
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a couple a times where it wasn't
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like rage quit bruises like i said
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you gave your best performance ever and
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yet to start over from scratch and
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then as you say i can can't
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do it my heart had a heart
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condition i take a chill pill may
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i used to joke with people that
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they would and giving me a heart
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attack that now that's can always start
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live streaming destiny i'm playing destiny two
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for a little bit better ways i
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got back i actually did this level
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before but i for whatever reason i
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quit before it ended and the i
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was just tired i've been sick often
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nine our it gets sensitive to light
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so i pretty much after calling a
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hope oh and like complete darkness but
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and a comeback and and it was
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a lot of fun but as we
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as you continue in this this series
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you'll see that i ran into the
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problem whereas i okay you did this
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mission but there are three other things
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you have to do to continue but
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when i can tell you what they
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were because it was like part of
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an old season has a quiet what
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so at this point in arrest pete
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and we don't have up and running
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and so the next mission that tries
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to throw me into his spoiler retrain
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rasputin's china no disable himself and sound
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try to figure out what happened in
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between you know and it's not clear
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where i can find those story missions
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and then there was another one i
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was doing with aramis and so i
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be aramis and we have on what's
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his face am various and he's a
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okay you can still do missions for
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me sir to take out the fallen
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and this and that and so am
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i okay so as the get to
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do two missions add to complete this
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like to side missions to complete decided
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to side missions and then what that
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was a whole other problem it's is
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due to side missions it doesn't tell
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you where to get them from so
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i'm like i'm activating the quest it's
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not show me where to go and
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i go back and i'm like really
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carefully reading the their quest details because
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i i don't know where anything is
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and destiny two but i figured our
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and so i do wine and and
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i do too and then it doesn't
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register that i did them as they
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were so i got stuck with that
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part with the aramis story and then
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oh i forgot where i went i
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went to our planet will was put
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on a whole nother story line started
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as a white but as i find
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you i gave up playing destiny literally
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click trying to play at disney to
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in a linear manor house that i
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just whatever missions i can play i'll
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just play and so i do that
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and i'm walk into this place in
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a spooky and there's like a strange
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floating go guiding you places i agree
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so the whole mission was just me
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walking this like have taken down place
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and then i get and they're they're
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okay scanners so scan it and then
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a bunch of enemy pop up and
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the whole mission is just run back
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out the way you came as i
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lied what and so then i located
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i was interesting story like how do
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i continue that and it's like sake
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can't select a quest sir i know
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it's just i'm not playing destiny to
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the right way and it's can add
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at this point i'm too afraid to
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ask how you specify a disney too
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but i am going to continue to
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try to i'm just gonna be playing
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it for gameplay not so much for
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story which is like the opposite of
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what i normally do because they i
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like stories and games i liked players
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message if you get to go through
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the story and everything of halo like
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i never stepped foot in multiplayer and
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everything so that's kind of that thing
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i don't like so much about destiny
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where multiplayer is really forced upon you
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and the story isn't that great nine
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due to how did it to me
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to do as kind of my struggle
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in terms of gaming but the game
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playing destiny is so great and i
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guess at i'm having problems figure out
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how the story goes but the gameplay
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is phenomenal and and bunches said that
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in the past their number one priority
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is gameplay and they just built a
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story around the gameplay hundred to do
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but said the project i've been working
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on has taken have so much time
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is working with machine learning in and
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i think it was i haven't even
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november i was doing alive oh working
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with i'm a art stuff and it
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wasn't like prompts like you type in
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two or yeah you go into a
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web page and he has say you
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know paint me show me a painting
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of hello sunset it wasn't so much
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that what i was working with it
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was like a i interpretation of art
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and so ha i would give i
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get i would have a picture of
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my sunset my i would i have
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you know have tons of photographs and
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so i will go and find i
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know when i have photos with an
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orange sunset yellows and blues and purples
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and so i would send that i
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entered the a generator that i use
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i use huggins arm transformers and so
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ah i would send it to image
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and i would say okay this is
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a this is a golden sunset and
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then i want you to do an
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effect of make it look like at
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painting so it's my photo everything and
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a word he know spit out when
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okay years the painting effect over it
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and it would look really good and
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at and so then i thought okay
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so now than it doing one version
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of that sunset and that's interesting so
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i'm made it so that it does
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the same thing like five times and
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so it's interesting with the ai and
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visual arts is that in never outputs
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the same thing twice so it always
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try to do something a little bit
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different little bit different sometimes there's huge
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differences but i've never seen it spit
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out the same ah interpretation of and
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work at once know if you doing
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text prompts ah then yeah i've i've
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seen it do repeatable things but when
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i'm supplying art to it and acts
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asking it to you know to it's
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interpretation oh that are it always comes
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out with something a little bit different
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and so i've had a run on
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the computer where have summit how picture
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i've done and i have a go
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and do like forty four the adoration
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so it just you know loops the
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whole thing over but it seems it
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as a different file names such as
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an overripe the previous one and so
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come up with forty images that are
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very similar and and i it's scary
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him because it was like wow other
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males are very good interpretations and saw
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one of the problems i was singing
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allow okay so words were comparing it
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to and i was as also kind
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of having like you know crisis of
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faith like here i think i'm so
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creative but the way machine learning works
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is you know you feed it you
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know billions worth billions billions of images
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at a time machine what each thing
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is it learned what it is and
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but upper and so here i am
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and i i do my photography most
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of it is i'm it's not heavily
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photo shopped i do color grade i
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do when i work with brightness in
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contrast little bit but i'm not going
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crazy photo shop and like i'm not
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replacing ah the sky was different sunset
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switch a lot of people do and
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then i'm not and i'm not so
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much doing digital manipulation him just know
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trying to honestly make the colors as
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they appear to be or has i
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i saw them at the time which
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is another topic of know how you
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perceive the world and so the crisis
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of faith was just like okay so
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i've done all this work i've done
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you know the ai has no idea
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who i am in terms of photography
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and creative work said i've done but
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it's already able to interpret what i'm
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submitting to it and kind of generate
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arm image is that are similar in
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my style even though i have not
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participated in the we know the original
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database that at drawing upon and so
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it was i was really cool because
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it's able to learn kind of my
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style and says okay from one edge
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i give it its is how does
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is kind of that guys down going
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to give him something back in that
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somewhere style and so that was really
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interesting did to her and now and
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yeah it's just is really impressive because
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a lot of people creators there was
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this huge burst i don't know what
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happened but everyone like i don't know
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if there was like a sale on
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some social media program but everyone was
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like i just gave my profile picture
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to this a generator it came out
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with like these things and it's the
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same thing they gave him like five
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or six photos on themselves and then
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the ai generated you know or that
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it that was appropriate for that person
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and like the facial expressions are the
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same and everything like that and then
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of course it does exaggerate some body
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parts so did it exaggerates some you
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know anyway so and or lot of
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people and that i follow and communicate
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with and eric wow mrs great and
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as losing my train of that so
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that's kind of the air or thing
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that i was working on back in
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ah october november and then i saw
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it as time doing landscape photography is
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my example was the sunset so then
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i continued on that i don't know
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why are you know this but i've
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i've done a little bit not working
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for anyone just you know as a
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hobby i i do three animations and
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and things like that i used to
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do on hello the videos and stuff
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i would release on you tube i
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would i would do staggers carpet versions
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so it was like actual three d
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videos and i share with us or
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you cameron everything and i still have
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a tons of thirty footage and i'm
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playing to get back to the i've
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just been busy programming and everything that
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i haven't had a long time to
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edit the where one at it by
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for lot of the stereo ska pick
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photos and videos and stuff i also
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did out no three characters make the
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kind you would seem like this video
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game and and everything like that and
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a lot of it was no it's
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uncanny valley american an ally it's just
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it's not like it's cringe but it's
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like it's photo realism but it's just
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not right like one hundred percent so
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that i'm trying to get rid of
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the creepiness factor as actually funny because
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for and high school i was doing
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animation back then too and so back
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in like two thousand and seven i
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think it was my nose two thousand
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and eight we had to do these
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are projects will not art project or
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we had to do you know final
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project for this one class it was
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ah not percival it was characters ah
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oh man i i remember what the
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art project was that i ended up
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doing by don't read the book is
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cool oh yeah it was faust okay
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say it was fast and so others
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that part in faust where we had
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to or we could do any project
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we wanted for the found project but
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we had explainer and it had to
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you know like show there's some creativity
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and some sort so some people wrote
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a poem about found some people i
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did like oil paintings and things like
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that and and so for faust or
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what i did was there was that
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scene where ah i think there is
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a lady who was having his kid
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but and hours she had to get
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rid of it and stuff and so
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i did just kind of three animation
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over my photography and everything of this
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kid kind of flying away and smarter
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faster band's name his his kitten and
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stuff but it was funny because and
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we not funny ha ha by it
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was i heard later that there is
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a parent teacher conferences and stuff answer
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the teachers i get a load it
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is why and project and it was
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a little creepy and as a creepy
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can tell me that she told my
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mother and my mom to asking me
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about anything too picky picky sir now
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been doing kind of creepy cg i
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forever i was i creepy like explicit
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every just like the uncanny valley and
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that was back in the day with
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poser and and little bit of work
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in blender what to do it to
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do him but the whole by in
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that story was that i i do
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a little bit of animation and environmental
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stuff and i used to do some
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i would like this i design things
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i'm gonna old school was drafting and
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than i am put it into the
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computer that way i've come up with
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some some cameras that you can thirty
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print and stuff so that like a
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go pro can holder thirty five millimeter
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lands and things like that but so
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i was taking some my old animations
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that i've done and my okay take
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the cg i stuff and i want
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to see how the ai you know
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interpret set say in our before a
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good example of hey here i have
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my sunset photo and time it to
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give me a painting v version of
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the sunset and it has you know
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the clouds or the sunset and the
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same place as the photos but it's
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er it's come up with his own
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brush strokes and everything so it it
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very much it's not that it's stole
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somebody elses artwork a hundred percent because
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if you look at him superimposed and
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stuff it still my composition it's the
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i guess what i'm saying trying to
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say is you know i'm giving it
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a random photograph one that it hasn't
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seen before is there a chance that
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somebody else has painted the exact same
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type of thing that it could be
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i just matching up and so i
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think it's taking bits and pieces of
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things were say okay this is a
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cloud but i know hung in a
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color as a cloud and this cloud
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is represented on the left corner of
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this image sanger put that there and
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so it it's hodgepodge in all the
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stuff together but it's still kind of
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now is weird i did start getting
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weirded out by it for a little
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bit but ah and terms of you
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know who's artwork is is is this
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is it my art because it's my
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photography that i photo shopped and everything
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and color graded and took the photo
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and stuff or is it the machines
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are because it interpreted interpreted that photograph
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and put it's overlay on it or
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is it you know the machine and
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somebody elses are and mind because it
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learned how to draw clouds from out
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these three hundred artists or i'm a
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learn you know what a son was
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from least thirty billion photos at processed
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so now that's kind of the things
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i think about when i was generating
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art why am so then i started
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to submit to the machine the ah
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the three animations i've done their like
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character is of when men have some
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of them and icy forests nice a
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forced and i see mountain top saw
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him and and like these ruined now
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environments and so i started you know
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so it's kind of funny cause it's
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not before i was somebody neo my
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own artwork but of the physical world
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now i'm submitting ah three d renders
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have a simulated world and so i
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want to see how are interpreted that
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and so it was really scary too
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because i i did have you know
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they're not none of my characters are
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like they're not comment they are not
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it's not like i'm pam submitting a
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character like superman something that so famous
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and out there that everyone knows what
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superman looks like of or batman and
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when they're just they're just kind of
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generic people but he has some along
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with al pair stylings in a certain
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way are you on my a pink
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hair or something like that and tend
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to and this is where ag stay
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run and issues here header horrendous time
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the menu his sister did nick go
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and china export all these photos to
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and talk about what i'm doing those
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as well to dared to get there
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right way so i submit he had
555
0:29:15,210 --> 0:29:18,469
this animated characters and each one's join
556
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their own pose and what not and
557
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and environments are things that i've created
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and so then the machine so it's
559
0:29:30,120 --> 0:29:32,790
photo realistic three renders the kind seen
560
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a like this game or amazon video
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games is not a know and art
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0:29:36,990 --> 0:29:45,902
style or something like that and i
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tell it you know give it back
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0:29:47,430 --> 0:29:48,990
to me as though it's digital are
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like a painting digital painting or something
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like that and so it's giving them
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back and like it's really in are
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0:29:57,690 --> 0:30:03,540
really high quality on in a painting
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and stuff in a of the character
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and so he will be like okay
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my character will be wearing a pink
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dress and have blue hair and in
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this whatever powers and then the machine
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will give back a painting of out
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same color issue pink of as the
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true and they will have drawn the
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dress and it will be a woman
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sitting and kind of the same pose
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0:30:32,740 --> 0:30:37,120
and and then same color hair and
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0:30:37,120 --> 0:30:40,090
everything and was cool i was interesting
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0:30:40,090 --> 0:30:43,060
was with the three animated stuff and
582
0:30:43,720 --> 0:30:46,390
like it did deviate from what i
583
0:30:46,390 --> 0:30:48,940
had he not submit it but it
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0:30:48,940 --> 0:30:50,380
was the same kind of style like
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it was the same character ape it
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0:30:52,175 --> 0:30:53,200
was able to pick out what a
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pink dress was it was the able
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to pick up was the hair and
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facial structure to are they all kind
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of did look similar and so then
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am tried putting my thumb on the
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scale where i would say okay even
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i was some mean a photo and
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it wasn't like an enemy or something
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as okay make this an enemy oil
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painting blob of of of law ah
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and then i would submit my image
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with that and so then i would
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0:31:22,780 --> 0:31:25,571
try to interpret and it would rearrange
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it figure out what the human was
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0:31:27,250 --> 0:31:28,240
a would figure out how to make
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0:31:28,240 --> 0:31:31,150
an enemy version of them as a
603
0:31:31,210 --> 0:31:41,080
while notes as incredible he said that
604
0:31:41,080 --> 0:31:43,300
i had even more questions you know
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0:31:44,020 --> 0:31:46,450
staying that and terms of like okay
606
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so no one does it become not
607
0:31:52,660 --> 0:31:56,020
my character design and guess is what
608
0:31:56,020 --> 0:31:58,300
i'm saying like i've done this work
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during the three marlene hair design and
610
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you know environmental our environment to work
611
0:32:09,910 --> 0:32:12,220
ah but the machines interpretation of my
612
0:32:12,220 --> 0:32:18,040
work is something that it's not identical
613
0:32:18,460 --> 0:32:20,050
but it's very similar to what i've
614
0:32:20,050 --> 0:32:23,110
done and has like the attributes said
615
0:32:23,115 --> 0:32:26,170
i put into the image and the
616
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characters but it's very much unique you
617
0:32:30,784 --> 0:32:32,500
know like is not somebody who sat
618
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down and traced my animation and then
619
0:32:35,830 --> 0:32:38,830
colored year and everything it's you know
620
0:32:38,830 --> 0:32:43,240
nothing quite lines up it so you
621
0:32:43,240 --> 0:32:46,750
know when you're painting somebody ah oh
622
0:32:46,779 --> 0:32:48,040
a lot of the problems when you're
623
0:32:48,040 --> 0:32:52,270
painting is is framing or like with
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a photograph you framed photo and then
625
0:32:54,310 --> 0:32:57,130
you take the photo and so painting
626
0:32:57,280 --> 0:33:01,120
from a still life or ah somebody
627
0:33:01,120 --> 0:33:04,450
posey for opinion is is really difficult
628
0:33:05,440 --> 0:33:06,850
because you have to figure out what
629
0:33:06,850 --> 0:33:08,770
you want to put in the frame
630
0:33:08,770 --> 0:33:10,780
of the picture which is a lot
631
0:33:10,780 --> 0:33:14,380
harder than you think an arm like
632
0:33:14,380 --> 0:33:15,880
when you start drawing an army thing
633
0:33:15,880 --> 0:33:18,190
i i'd draw this arms no problem
634
0:33:18,190 --> 0:33:19,360
but what part of the armed you
635
0:33:19,360 --> 0:33:21,010
want in the picture and like is
636
0:33:21,096 --> 0:33:23,860
arm supposed to be is if you
637
0:33:23,860 --> 0:33:25,090
know the paint was it just a
638
0:33:25,090 --> 0:33:26,350
picture of the arm or is it
639
0:33:26,440 --> 0:33:27,580
was a be a picture of arm
640
0:33:27,580 --> 0:33:31,300
shoulder and head and everything in our
641
0:33:31,300 --> 0:33:34,210
so once you start trying yeah you
642
0:33:34,210 --> 0:33:35,920
start realizing oh that doesn't fit in
643
0:33:35,920 --> 0:33:37,090
the frame if i make the i'm
644
0:33:37,092 --> 0:33:39,520
this big or that and so scaling
645
0:33:39,520 --> 0:33:42,370
is a big problem and painting and
646
0:33:42,490 --> 0:33:48,280
android ah vs ah painting or drawing
647
0:33:48,280 --> 0:33:52,090
from in a a photograph and so
648
0:33:53,410 --> 0:33:55,540
it's kind of what i'm impressed with
649
0:33:55,540 --> 0:33:58,930
the artificial intelligences i'm giving it a
650
0:33:59,110 --> 0:34:01,990
and photograph or three d render or
651
0:34:01,990 --> 0:34:04,300
a drawing that i did and it
652
0:34:06,250 --> 0:34:09,220
it's interpreting it's own space seen it's
653
0:34:09,220 --> 0:34:13,660
own arm know it's own framing where
654
0:34:13,660 --> 0:34:15,426
it's like okay i do want to
655
0:34:16,360 --> 0:34:18,340
your have this character but it's not
656
0:34:18,340 --> 0:34:19,870
frame to the way i framed it
657
0:34:19,930 --> 0:34:22,180
he knows an exact same place it
658
0:34:22,180 --> 0:34:24,395
is likes moreover to the right and
659
0:34:24,395 --> 0:34:29,500
the camera angle is out slightly different
660
0:34:30,100 --> 0:34:31,495
and answer then and like i'm talking
661
0:34:31,495 --> 0:34:33,100
lot about the character but also the
662
0:34:33,100 --> 0:34:38,800
environmental on detail is somewhat similar but
663
0:34:38,800 --> 0:34:41,530
not the same and what's impressive what
664
0:34:41,530 --> 0:34:42,940
that is that a lot of the
665
0:34:42,940 --> 0:34:44,440
three d n ration everything i do
666
0:34:44,950 --> 0:34:48,790
ah when you're doing three the animation
667
0:34:48,820 --> 0:34:50,170
you do have a camera you work
668
0:34:50,170 --> 0:34:52,150
with even though there's no physical camera
669
0:34:52,780 --> 0:34:56,050
and so our times the default camera
670
0:34:56,080 --> 0:34:58,570
is thirty five millimeters and that has
671
0:34:58,570 --> 0:35:00,280
to do with know what type of
672
0:35:00,520 --> 0:35:02,530
focal lengths the through generation will be
673
0:35:03,670 --> 0:35:09,430
represented with and as i actually have
674
0:35:09,460 --> 0:35:13,390
the camera use user be in a
675
0:35:13,390 --> 0:35:19,420
large format a medium format sizer now
676
0:35:19,510 --> 0:35:22,960
his sword medium for size camera so
677
0:35:22,960 --> 0:35:24,940
having it be a diagonal of eighty
678
0:35:24,940 --> 0:35:29,350
million years and so that means that
679
0:35:31,870 --> 0:35:33,940
you get depth of field the closer
680
0:35:33,940 --> 0:35:36,280
you are to a subject or not
681
0:35:36,280 --> 0:35:37,810
the further away the subject as you
682
0:35:37,810 --> 0:35:39,790
still get a huge range of depth
683
0:35:39,790 --> 0:35:44,170
of field is not there sir there's
684
0:35:44,530 --> 0:35:47,770
a very good separation of the character
685
0:35:47,770 --> 0:35:51,400
with the background it's separates that way
686
0:35:51,730 --> 0:35:53,500
but you also get a very small
687
0:35:53,740 --> 0:35:58,900
like a razor thin ah a razor
688
0:35:58,900 --> 0:36:03,250
thin depth of field even if they're
689
0:36:03,250 --> 0:36:04,960
farther away which is something that's hard
690
0:36:04,960 --> 0:36:06,790
to do with thirty five millimeter films
691
0:36:07,840 --> 0:36:09,280
i with things are far away when
692
0:36:09,280 --> 0:36:10,990
they're close it's easy to get a
693
0:36:11,500 --> 0:36:13,390
showed up the field but with medium
694
0:36:13,390 --> 0:36:15,070
format it's easy to get a shallow
695
0:36:15,070 --> 0:36:17,110
depth of field with objects that are
696
0:36:17,110 --> 0:36:20,500
farther away from the camera and that
697
0:36:21,700 --> 0:36:24,250
that easy as it increases with the
698
0:36:24,250 --> 0:36:29,050
larger the frame sensor format or film
699
0:36:29,050 --> 0:36:33,730
format is but so no point of
700
0:36:33,730 --> 0:36:35,440
this is that my through the animations
701
0:36:35,830 --> 0:36:39,310
were will be were and will be
702
0:36:39,310 --> 0:36:44,800
like a a head neck shoulders and
703
0:36:45,190 --> 0:36:48,370
little bit of torso ah from kind
704
0:36:48,370 --> 0:36:50,860
of far away but only their eyes
705
0:36:50,920 --> 0:36:53,770
and nose will be in a razor
706
0:36:53,770 --> 0:36:57,760
sharp focus and by the time you
707
0:36:57,760 --> 0:37:00,160
can look at their their characters ears
708
0:37:00,580 --> 0:37:02,770
it's pretty out of focus and said
709
0:37:02,770 --> 0:37:06,040
the background is just and just kind
710
0:37:06,040 --> 0:37:08,470
of a very soft blur of colors
711
0:37:08,470 --> 0:37:10,420
and things and you can kinda tell
712
0:37:10,420 --> 0:37:13,240
like okay maybe that's a pillar and
713
0:37:13,240 --> 0:37:14,680
the packer know when i put it
714
0:37:14,680 --> 0:37:16,930
is out of focus and so even
715
0:37:16,930 --> 0:37:19,090
with all that that loss of detail
716
0:37:19,600 --> 0:37:21,880
ah the air was able to figure
717
0:37:21,880 --> 0:37:25,180
out okay this is human shape ah
718
0:37:25,210 --> 0:37:27,100
even know that partner nine focus and
719
0:37:27,100 --> 0:37:28,480
even though the hair is completely out
720
0:37:28,480 --> 0:37:30,490
of of is this is am my
721
0:37:30,490 --> 0:37:32,440
hair that's an abrasion pop up the
722
0:37:32,446 --> 0:37:37,720
law and out and so forth so
723
0:37:37,720 --> 0:37:41,890
that was now it's like wow and
724
0:37:41,890 --> 0:37:43,810
so then it would trade it would
725
0:37:43,810 --> 0:37:45,430
simulate what it thought was in the
726
0:37:45,430 --> 0:37:47,740
background and it would be pretty close
727
0:37:47,890 --> 0:37:49,960
so like a and the backcountry of
728
0:37:49,960 --> 0:37:52,330
know it's all blurt out because of
729
0:37:52,330 --> 0:37:53,860
the depth of field i had to
730
0:37:53,860 --> 0:37:56,410
where it was a oh i see
731
0:37:57,070 --> 0:37:59,860
no and cut out this these ruins
732
0:38:00,370 --> 0:38:03,790
architectural ruins in the middle of a
733
0:38:03,790 --> 0:38:06,400
mountain range in their snow and everything
734
0:38:06,880 --> 0:38:08,170
and so it was coming up with
735
0:38:08,200 --> 0:38:11,608
images of know snowy mountain range and
736
0:38:11,608 --> 0:38:13,599
the character and he was tired of
737
0:38:13,599 --> 0:38:16,870
focus in the format of being an
738
0:38:16,870 --> 0:38:18,996
oil painting and everything like that said
739
0:38:18,996 --> 0:38:24,670
that was that made me think you
740
0:38:24,670 --> 0:38:28,450
know well again it was my design
741
0:38:28,450 --> 0:38:35,290
my employer by how did the i
742
0:38:35,290 --> 0:38:37,660
come up with her no is it
743
0:38:37,660 --> 0:38:40,030
because it only looks at specific pieces
744
0:38:40,030 --> 0:38:44,080
and says well this area is kind
745
0:38:44,080 --> 0:38:46,030
of dedicated skies are going to copy
746
0:38:46,030 --> 0:38:48,700
and paste a sky from another database
747
0:38:48,730 --> 0:38:50,020
or is it that is as okay
748
0:38:50,020 --> 0:38:51,970
this is sky i know what thirty
749
0:38:51,970 --> 0:38:54,670
billion different skies that look like anger
750
0:38:54,670 --> 0:38:57,340
interpretation my own version of the sky
751
0:38:58,030 --> 0:39:00,370
and paste that in there or is
752
0:39:00,370 --> 0:39:03,100
it just copying a as other artists'
753
0:39:03,100 --> 0:39:08,320
work of a sky that is exact
754
0:39:08,325 --> 0:39:11,290
right color most was to be as
755
0:39:11,290 --> 0:39:13,092
i don't think it's status copy and
756
0:39:13,092 --> 0:39:17,080
pasting the artwork of somebody else for
757
0:39:17,080 --> 0:39:25,600
each little section because dad at it
758
0:39:25,720 --> 0:39:31,540
down it's to aligned with my own
759
0:39:31,540 --> 0:39:36,790
style if that makes sense where it's
760
0:39:36,790 --> 0:39:38,890
not just looking for certain color skies
761
0:39:39,460 --> 0:39:48,910
but it's also dude dude i'm having
762
0:39:48,910 --> 0:39:50,680
a hard time trying to say when
763
0:39:50,830 --> 0:39:56,230
transit but it's it's the continuity like
764
0:39:56,230 --> 0:39:58,540
it fits all too well together to
765
0:39:58,540 --> 0:40:00,250
be just copy and paste data in
766
0:40:00,370 --> 0:40:04,180
blurred out together with art so i
767
0:40:04,180 --> 0:40:07,660
think with the machine learning oh what
768
0:40:07,660 --> 0:40:11,532
it is is it actually learned how
769
0:40:11,532 --> 0:40:15,610
to breasts how to best represent you
770
0:40:15,610 --> 0:40:17,830
know what it seems so yes it
771
0:40:17,830 --> 0:40:21,910
looked at know fifty billion paintings of
772
0:40:22,090 --> 0:40:27,250
clouds and drawing a cloud it's not
773
0:40:27,610 --> 0:40:31,270
drawing you know from one of the
774
0:40:31,270 --> 0:40:36,250
examples it it just knows the probability
775
0:40:36,430 --> 0:40:39,310
like okay to be a cloud as
776
0:40:39,310 --> 0:40:44,200
be snow white semi transparent now the
777
0:40:44,200 --> 0:40:45,610
way light hits it and stuff so
778
0:40:45,610 --> 0:40:49,180
it actually understands the category of cloud
779
0:40:49,180 --> 0:40:51,850
and it's drawing what it thinks a
780
0:40:51,854 --> 0:40:53,650
cloud should look like and fit in
781
0:40:53,650 --> 0:40:55,990
that area i don't think it's like
782
0:40:55,990 --> 0:40:58,510
this huge photo shop thing of like
783
0:40:58,510 --> 0:41:00,696
collages of other people's work at that
784
0:41:00,696 --> 0:41:02,290
make sense i think it actually does
785
0:41:03,190 --> 0:41:06,610
i understand what is trying to represent
786
0:41:12,550 --> 0:41:16,118
and that makes sense so there are
787
0:41:16,118 --> 0:41:17,560
a lot of people say that oh
788
0:41:18,730 --> 0:41:21,280
and air work is just as stolen
789
0:41:21,280 --> 0:41:25,360
artwork and i don't think it is
790
0:41:27,100 --> 0:41:32,999
i think that the databases that what
791
0:41:32,999 --> 0:41:38,320
we're used to train the ai that
792
0:41:38,320 --> 0:41:44,230
may have been stolen and normally i'd
793
0:41:44,230 --> 0:41:47,620
say oh that's terrible and everything but
794
0:41:48,040 --> 0:41:49,690
a lot of people are complaining because
795
0:41:49,690 --> 0:41:54,070
it's because it's ai and real people
796
0:41:54,070 --> 0:41:57,310
heat machines ah but when i think
797
0:41:57,340 --> 0:42:00,370
happened was they were just in a
798
0:42:00,370 --> 0:42:03,702
web crawlers and like that the problem
799
0:42:03,702 --> 0:42:05,290
that have a pure get grumpy with
800
0:42:05,290 --> 0:42:08,560
it is that nobody really cared too
801
0:42:08,560 --> 0:42:11,050
much when you know google and around
802
0:42:11,080 --> 0:42:13,450
crawling the web and like a lot
803
0:42:13,450 --> 0:42:16,030
of photographers from back in my day
804
0:42:16,030 --> 0:42:17,200
when i was growing up that i
805
0:42:17,200 --> 0:42:19,690
would learn from they were really grumpy
806
0:42:19,780 --> 0:42:22,030
their their images were showing up on
807
0:42:22,030 --> 0:42:27,671
google image search and near newark photographers
808
0:42:27,671 --> 0:42:30,010
and everything my pillow why would you
809
0:42:30,010 --> 0:42:32,360
be grumpy eg google but the the
810
0:42:32,383 --> 0:42:35,620
main reason is in front of photographers
811
0:42:35,620 --> 0:42:38,260
and artist but a lot of you
812
0:42:38,260 --> 0:42:40,150
know care and how they devote their
813
0:42:40,150 --> 0:42:44,080
web sites like in their usury static
814
0:42:44,650 --> 0:42:46,834
but they're organized and away whereas i
815
0:42:46,840 --> 0:42:50,200
okay you here all my paintings that
816
0:42:50,200 --> 0:42:53,200
i've done for this africa serious wary
817
0:42:53,200 --> 0:42:56,800
of elephants and zebras and stuff and
818
0:42:56,800 --> 0:43:01,810
so everything's aligned to fit together there's
819
0:43:02,020 --> 0:43:04,720
an layer designs and things like that
820
0:43:05,140 --> 0:43:07,570
and so when you have google say
821
0:43:07,720 --> 0:43:10,360
like okay angered to google for titians
822
0:43:10,360 --> 0:43:13,600
and zebra and then you know all
823
0:43:13,600 --> 0:43:15,040
my for is a zebras come up
824
0:43:15,550 --> 0:43:18,820
well that i have specific enough zebra
825
0:43:18,820 --> 0:43:25,270
photos for different collections and and so
826
0:43:25,270 --> 0:43:26,740
maybe i don't want them to be
827
0:43:26,740 --> 0:43:28,840
seen you're right next to each other
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because there is in a very different
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style ah for where each collection was
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was to be nudity and then the
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other issue at different hours don't like
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was like okay you just kind of
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cheap enough experience to just zebra photos
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so you get you know hundreds of
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photos of zebras by a no real
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recognition to the photographers are the source
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that took it so there is a
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big hubbub about the and that's why
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google before you could just right click
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and save the image on google but
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then they added that extra step where
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you have to click the image and
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then it says you know this may
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not be for public use and so
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a lot of people can have made
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fun of photographers because earlier where do
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you guys care you should be happy
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google has your images on google image
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search and everything and so that's not
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what i think air i heard his
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but i think that's how the huge
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databases of artwork were created i think
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there are tools the web crawlers like
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the ones google use that was just
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searching the internet finding everything that was
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public and ah he just trying to
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sort them into know a format that
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a machine could learn and so what
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ai is isn't as not consciousness it's
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0:44:57,400 --> 0:45:01,780
just eta tries to identify patterns and
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0:45:01,780 --> 0:45:03,130
so a lot of times it's just
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it's doing in thousands of guessing guesses
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0:45:10,060 --> 0:45:12,010
so what you would do is you
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know you give it out two thousand
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photos of clouds and you would as
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say okay compare these no two thousand
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photos they all have a cloud in
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them find them and so the machine
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or guess loops through and try to
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0:45:30,160 --> 0:45:32,290
figure out what has these three pixels
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what makes a cloud answer then it
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0:45:34,840 --> 0:45:36,370
will look the all two thousand photos
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and says you know these three pixels
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our in two hundred of these photos
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but it's not in the rest of
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the air the eight hundred and thousand
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photos and so it will just continue
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0:45:58,330 --> 0:46:01,600
going through had takes forever we're just
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0:46:01,630 --> 0:46:03,310
trying to figure out okay what the
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0:46:03,310 --> 0:46:06,100
heck is a cloud in these two
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thousand and four as have what the
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0:46:08,080 --> 0:46:10,690
human says is cloud in a what
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is the common denominator and all these
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and so it will just go through
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and training come up with all these
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0:46:17,560 --> 0:46:19,300
rules on how it defines a cloud
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0:46:22,030 --> 0:46:26,080
and in and this process is called
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0:46:26,110 --> 0:46:28,120
train your training get the machine to
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0:46:28,120 --> 0:46:33,370
understand what it seen and so gross
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0:46:33,370 --> 0:46:34,690
you need two thousand and four is
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0:46:34,690 --> 0:46:37,090
of crowds now with a machine to
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0:46:37,090 --> 0:46:40,240
machine during database you need you need
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0:46:40,240 --> 0:46:43,480
significantly more images and just two thousand
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0:46:44,260 --> 0:46:47,890
and then you need meal for visualization
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0:46:47,890 --> 0:46:55,630
you need you know several ah we
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0:46:55,630 --> 0:46:58,179
are billions of images for the different
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0:46:58,180 --> 0:46:59,290
has the thing so like you would
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0:46:59,290 --> 0:47:03,700
need an two thousand and photos of
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women ill and that's not even a
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0:47:06,310 --> 0:47:08,800
clearly enough but it has for our
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0:47:08,800 --> 0:47:10,660
wine is has forget what a man
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0:47:10,660 --> 0:47:12,070
is has a figure out what a
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0:47:12,070 --> 0:47:13,570
kid is now has to figure out
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what a girl is and what a
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0:47:15,400 --> 0:47:17,260
boy is and so like he can
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0:47:17,260 --> 0:47:22,690
see like there's millions of things mad
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a relatively simple and honor their is
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0:47:25,330 --> 0:47:28,660
if to do a relatively simple thing
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0:47:28,660 --> 0:47:30,220
of like okay draw a portrait of
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0:47:30,220 --> 0:47:31,840
a family it has to forget all
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0:47:31,840 --> 0:47:33,910
these things and each one would take
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0:47:34,480 --> 0:47:37,060
out hundreds or thousands of images it
913
0:47:37,060 --> 0:47:39,190
has to process to figure out what
914
0:47:39,190 --> 0:47:40,330
they are and find out what the
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0:47:40,330 --> 0:47:48,160
common denominator is and an answer has
916
0:47:48,160 --> 0:47:52,270
kind of adds that about so i
917
0:47:52,270 --> 0:47:53,770
don't think it stealing our i think
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0:47:53,770 --> 0:47:56,860
the are was stolen or that was
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0:47:56,920 --> 0:47:59,560
trained and i'm stealing as are wrong
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0:47:59,590 --> 0:48:02,230
word ah i think it was shown
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0:48:02,830 --> 0:48:04,900
or it that was when already publicly
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0:48:04,900 --> 0:48:08,020
on the internet and so is it
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0:48:08,020 --> 0:48:11,800
stone if a machine looks at it
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0:48:12,490 --> 0:48:14,020
i mean if that's the case then
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you know everything that's in google searches
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0:48:17,020 --> 0:48:20,140
stone because a bot searched through the
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0:48:20,140 --> 0:48:22,480
web page and took the text summarize
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0:48:22,492 --> 0:48:25,720
the text ranked to the text put
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the images and image search and everything
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0:48:31,690 --> 0:48:37,120
so i don't know because if it's
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if it's not good for ai that
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is not good for search engines and
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it's not good for a web or
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0:48:42,310 --> 0:49:00,400
anything that know summarizes the and it's
935
0:49:01,510 --> 0:49:03,370
the of and working on i have
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0:49:04,840 --> 0:49:06,820
of other topics to talk about but
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i'm gonna and it here and there
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i'll do this again real soon but
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i think everyone for coming to the
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dems united as streams podcast a be
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airing this on twitch and the form
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of the in the form of a
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rerun and her a will be coming
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to your podcast app and player of
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choice it's an apple a pet apple
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pie cass google whatever amazon and of
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course it's so podcasting two point no
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compliant podcast figure have come out see
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later alba
